
Lori Vallow appears in a courtroom sketch taken from a hearing on April 19, 2023 (via courtroom pool sketch artist). Inset: Vallow’s dead children, JJ Vallow (left) and Tylee Ryan (right) (via Fremont County Sheriff’s Office).
The triple murder trial of Lori Vallow Daybell — a “doomsday cult”-connected mother of two dead children and former wife to two dead husbands — stretched into its eighth day of testimony in an Ada County, Idaho, courthouse.
Vallow, 49, and her fifth and current husband, Chad Daybell, 54, stand accused of murder in the 2019 deaths of Joshua “JJ” Vallow, 7, and Tylee Ashlyn Ryan, 17. The children disappeared on different dates in September of that year. Vallow was initially arrested in Hawaii in February 2020 on charges of child desertion. Daybell was arrested later that year after the children’s bodies were found buried in shallow graves on his property in Salem, Idaho.
The two defendants were indicted for the murder of Vallow’s children and Daybell’s first wife, Tammy Daybell, 49, in May 2021. They were initially prosecuted as husband-and-wife co-defendants, but the couple’s cases were recently severed and they now face separate trials.
The second week of the trial is abbreviated due to the recent death of lead prosecutor Lindsey Blake’s father.
Last week, jurors heard engrossing testimony from Lori Vallow’s former best friend Melanie Gibb, who detailed the defendant’s belief in “zombies,” “possession,” and other supernatural ideas that stray far from the basic Mormon faith that the friends once shared. After that, jurors heard testimony from Zulema Pastenes, the widow of Lori Vallow’s deceased brother Alex Cox, who testified Lori Vallow told her that Charles Vallow was “possessed by a dark spirit.”
The first week of testimony went by relatively quickly as the defense did not perform much in the way of cross-examination. A similar situation appears to have played out during the present week as well.
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On Tuesday, Lori Vallow’s only surviving son, Colby Ryan, took the stand and discussed his faith and family. He later sat there as prosecutors played a jailhouse phone call between him and his mother in which he accuses her of murdering his siblings and calls her a liar.
On Wednesday, jurors were walked through copious amounts of financial data by various state witnesses in an effort to understand the grand theft charges against the defendant. Vallow effectively stands accused of conspiring to kill her children and stealing money that belonged to them. Those charges are laid out in somewhat unique, combined indictments.
Jurors also heard about Lori Vallow’s actions and alleged lack of emotion on the morning Charles Vallow was killed.
Law&Crime correspondent Gigi McKelvey will provide updates as the case progresses Thursday and throughout the trial.
Detective Moffat is here from Chandler PD so expecting to hear more about Charles’s murder. I have a good view of Lori today. Let’s see what we learn on day 12! #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Shoutout to the listener who brought me a seat cushion. My DNA came with no padding pic.twitter.com/mew7HdGhcr
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
UPDATE: 3:17 P.M. MST – Videos and a Long Recess
They went back to her apartment that same day. She said JJ was with Melanie Gibb & was arranging a call. They couldn’t get Gibb. They decided to return to her apartment #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
They talked to Melanie Gibb. She denied having JJ and she wasn’t in AZ at the time. The info Lori gave was inaccurate. She also said a brother(Adam) had come to kill her for her life insurance. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
She never made efforts to re-enroll JJ at his school in AZ & the principal DID NOT have to drag JJ into the school in ID #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
They got warrants for all 3 townhomes – Lori, Alex, and Melaniece #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Nov 27, 2020 – Search warrant video being played. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
There’s things all in the living room. Amazon delivery unopened and found on the porch, keys left, garage with things in there – couches, tables, guns/ Lots of plastic storage totes #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
I master and then 2 bedrooms down the upstairs hall – empty box in closet, fan, bedspread, and a box with ladies winter clothes. 3rd room – bag of male toiletries #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Recess until Monday #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
UPDATE: 2:46 P.M. MST – “I Look Like a Suspect, But I’m a Good Person”
Expedia records for Lori coming in #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Business records for Tammy’s Gmail and Fitbit #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
His 1st involvement was on Nov 1, 2019. They were contacted by Fremont Co Sheriff’s office – AZ authorities wanted to locate the Jeep used in the attempt on Brandon. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
He saw Chad and Lori get into a blue car. They were going to follow them to see if they could find the Jeep. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
The took photos of them walking to the store and they will show the photos. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
They found the Jeep and seized it Nov 4th, 2019. Then on November 26, 2019 they went to do a welfare check on JJ at the request of Kay Woodcock #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
She says JJ is with Melanie Gibb, One brother is trying to kill her and she’s moving around #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Lori “I look like a suspect but I’m a good person”. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Lori is watching this on the monitor on their desk #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
He felt it was odd Lori said Alex was there and he didn’t come down to engage in the conversation. At the top of the stairs he could see movement. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
UPDATE: 1:35 P.M. MST – A Detective and an FBI Agent
He is a detective with Fremont Co Sheriff’s Office @LawCrimeNetwork #LoriVallowTrial
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
They took electronic evidence to Salt Lake City to a forensic lab. @LawCrimeNetwork #LoriVallowTrial
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
He will not be released from his subponea. @LawCrimeNetwork #LoriVallowTrial
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
He started late March 2020. He was reviewing tips that came from the press release on March 5th. The release was when it was made public Tylee was last seen in Yellowstone @LawCrimeNetwork #LoriVallowTrial
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
He also reviewed 2 Blu-Ray disks that contained data from storage devices from Chad’s residence. @LawCrimeNetwork #LoriVallowTrial
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
There were incoming texts addressed to her, her name was listed as the user, and outgoing messages introducing herself as Tammy or signing off emails as Tammy. @LawCrimeNetwork #LoriVallowTrial
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
September 9, 19′ – Tammy’s phone got a text that caught his attention from Chad “Well, I’ve had an interesting morning! I felt I should burn all of the limb debris by the fire pit before it got too soaked by the coming storms, the While I did so, I spotted a big raccoon along…
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Most texts were to the point about when one or the other would come home, getting food for animals, etc. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Chad shoots and kills an animals and burns it according to the text. He relayed that to the case agents. Direct is over. No cross #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
UPDATE: 11:44 A.M. MST – More on the Faith
He learned Lori and Alex moved to ID through Melanie G. The conference he was in town to attend was a Book Of Mormon conference. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
There isn’t a group called Preparing A People. It’s events with speakers and vendors. David spoke because of his conversion to the faith #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
He has given talks about secret combinations in England and Saudi Arabia. He’s seen visions of Russia and China invading the US #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
David said he had a nightmare. Archibald says a nightmare and vision are 2 different things Archibald asks if a vision is pretend and David says a vision is when you’re being shown thing in the future but not yourself – someone is presenting it – it was from the angels…
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
He said he just had that experience that nightmare and Gibb said she would get Chad to give him a blessing which would have hopefully given him peace. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Chad and Lori didn’t respond to Melanie. Chad pointed out the “minor” scratch from JJ on Chad’s neck. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
David said it would be an honor to be part of the 144k but he wasn’t seeking that and he didn’t think Chad had the authority to gather – the prophet of the church, Russell M Nelson, would be the one. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
John the Beloved was a close disciple of Jesus and Chad said this was where he got his authority from. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
The audience for his talks were the Preparing A People, preparedness camps, organized firesides #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
The purpose of the podcast was to help build faith, identify stumbling blocks to faith #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
He said what they were. teaching didn’t match their character – which was good. He left Rexburg confused. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Out of control – the climbing, etc. He saw no evidence of damage – no scuffs, no bent door hinges, etc. Redirect is over. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
He is released from his subpoena. We are going to take lunch break.
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
UPDATE: 11:15 A.M. MST – The Problem Witness Testifies
Charles had been murdered at the time he met her. They met in early August. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
David didn’t feel it was right so they never did work on a book together. At the house they were sitting around a table. Lori was an amazing hostess fixing food. It was like having a social #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
He was there 9/20-9/23 IN 2019. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Melanie called and said don’t waste money on a hotel. Lori has an extra bedroom so they stayed there over the weekend. When they arrived Alex, lori, Melanie, and JJ were there. JJ was sitting on the couch playing with toys. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
He interacted with JJ again – he was making a house out of a cardboard box. David tried to connect but JJ didn’t acknowledge David at all. JJ did engage with Alex once but it looked like a good relationship and he played with neighbor kids #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
David says he doesn’t know how far to go with this. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Chad met them at a property near a church. David, Chad, Lori, and Melanie G all met. They wanted to tell them about the building there which was like a temple. David said it wasn’t there – no building there #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Alex took them to the property though. Chad and someone else came over. The guy was a relator and Chad told David if he had any questions to contact the relator. David told Chad he didn’t do business on Sunday. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
David knew Chad was married but he was affectionate with Lori. David asked him how his marriage was and Chad said he had no complaints and her time was coming up (Lori smiles and shakes her head no) and him and Lori had things to do #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
David said Chad was saying he was one of the 144k and that’s why he wanted David in Rexburg. David said that would come from God. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
He saw JJ around 10:30 – Alex came in the front door. JJ was asleep with his head on Alex’s shoulder. He took JJ upstairs and put him in bed. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
JJ was sleeping in Lori’s room that weekend. David was in JJ’s room. David said he had one of the worst nightmares of his life. Gibb came in to help him. She wanted to get Lori and came back saying she couldn’t get anyone #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
David has a bad cold. We ALL gonna be sick in a day or 2.
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Direct is over. Mr Archibald is up for cross exam. Archibald asks if he and Melanie were divorced and he said yes. They started seeing one another when David was in the divorce process. She was divorced. David is a general contractor. #lorivallow@LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
UPDATE: 10:45 A.M. MST – A Witness Breaks the Rules
Lori is shaking her head to her attorney as David takes the stand #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
He testified at Chad’s preliminary hearing and to the Grand Jury. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
He understands he wasn’t supposed to. They have a long distance marriage right now due to family issues. He says her testimony won’t affect his. Defense is up. Archibald asks if they talked about anything after she testified and he says no #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
David said he has been very sick. He was listening to her demeanor and not her testimony to see how she was coping with being on the stand. He said she seemed somber #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
He accessed other articles that day as well. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
The state says we have to consider if any harm was done to the case and she is citing no willfulness conduct and was checking on his wife. She said he admitted it and points out he’s testified under oath several times and is forthcoming #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Not only did he willingly listen he accessed an article on top of that. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Judge Boyce says it doesn’t rise to the level that he not be able to testify. They will do a sanction. The defense will be able to make a comment on his non-compliance during cross exam #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Sidebar is finished. The jury is being brought back in and David Warwick WILL testify #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Lori didn’t look too happy about that ruling #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
UPDATE 9:39 A.M. MST – JJ’s Principal
JJ was enrolled 9/3/19 – 9/24/19. The last day he was present in the school was 9/20/19. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
She said once he was enrolled in LA they would have them call for his records. They weren’t going to enroll him in a school, but homeschool him. There was a cousin with smilier needs so they both would be homeschooled. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
JJ was not at school on 9/23 or 9/24. His last day seen there was 9/20/19. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
When he met Lori and JJ Lori never said the enrollment was temporary. Witness says his impression was he would be there long-term. He was surprised when Lori unenrolled JJ. No further questions. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Archibald is trying to show with the last 2 witnesses that she planned for JJ to be around for the long haul. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
UPDATE 9:30 A.M. MST – JJ’s Babysitter
Lori smiled when Sidney walked in the room. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
They met September 8, 2019 at Lori’s townhouse. The interview went well. Lori greeted her warmly, gave her a hug, said they moved recently and JJ had tendencies to get emotional, distracted, and difficulty communicating. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
She said Tylee wanted to be paid to watch JJ which is why she posted the ad for help. Sidney came the next day to watch JJ for a few hours while Lori went to the airport to get a friend (Got Melanie & David Warwick) #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Lori returned and JJ was still upset. Lori calmed him down. Alex and Melanie G was there. She was paid and she left. She thought she would watch JJ again. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
After that month passed she texted Lori and Lori never responded. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Archibald is pointing out Lori gave her info so she could plan to take care of JJ long-term. Lori didn’t say this is a one time deal #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Archibald is finished with cross. No redirect. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
UPDATE: 9:15 A.M. MST – Sgt. Moffatt Testifies Over Objections
Family in attendance – Kay & Larry Woodcock, Kay’s daughter Kresha, Cheryl Wheeler (Charles ex-wife), don’t see Annie Cushing and her daughter. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
He is now a Sergeant. He’s been with Chandler PD for 21 years. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
His role was case agent. He walked through the scene after being briefed by patrol of the interviews that had already taken place. He did not see Lori on scene. He did see Alex but didn’t talk to him #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Some jurors are writing notes. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Charles had gunshot wounds to the chest and lower abdomen. Alex went to the kitchen, washed his hands, put his gun in the room & called 911. Alex said he didn’t know where Lori and Tylee were at the time of the shooting #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Ale denies Lori asked him to stay several times even thought Lori told investigators she asked him to. Her sister, Summer, also says she asked him to stay for Lori. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
He was back at the scene after the interviews with Lori, Tylee, and Alex. They learned there were 2 gunshot wounds on Charles. One bullet landed in the baseboard and one under his body. (Alex said he shot Charles 2x while he was standing) #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
The trajectory didn’t match what Alex said. On the way back to the house. One detective was driving, Tylee up front, and Lori and Alex in back. the conversation was light hearted. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
Sgt Moffat called on July 17 and the insurance company said Lori had called trying to file the claim. No further questions and Archibald has no cross #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork pic.twitter.com/yWy865TaCV
— Pretty Lies & Alibis🎙 (@PrettyLiesAlibi) April 20, 2023
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